Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Wagner footnotes the death of (the) God(s)

Wagner’s “Götterdämmerung” confirms the death of the gods (God), as Nietzsche metaphorically stated also.


God Himself confronted man for the last time during the Hebrew period [circa] 8000 BC.

God’s messengers appeared off and on after that time, but God? He disappeared.

Jesus’ last appearance (and even that “visitation” is iffy) took place when Saul of Tarsus (St. Paul) had his encounter with a disembodied manifestation of Jesus/Christ.


Jesus, after his alleged ascension, made that one contact with mortal man, and that was it. (We think Paul had a psychotic episode, as noted here earlier, but for the sake of argument we’ll concede that Paul was touched by Jesus, even if that “touching” was only immaterial in essence.)

Mary, the mother of Jesus, appeared sporadically over the years after her “death” but the last bona fide appearance she made was at Fatima, Portugal in 1917.


There are those who discount the Fatima visitation, and all the subsequent visions of Mary, such as those in Belgium (Beauraing 1932; Banneux 1933) and Spain (Garabandal 1961-65).

But we accept the Fatima appearance as real, based upon the reactions and eventual religious dedication of the children (Lucia, Jacinta, and Francisco) who had the visions. Also there were many eyewitness accounts that didn’t actually confirm a Mary sighting, but did authenticate something strange occurring during the alleged Mary episodes.

God didn’t appear to Muhammed [610 AD], but His messengers did, just as they did to Joseph Smith [1820 ff.] who founded the Mormon religion.


Again. God didn’t appear to anyone after about 800 BC. And Jesus only to Paul (maybe) around 35 or 36 AD.

Mary had appeared sporadically up to 1917, perhaps later but not recently in any way that is dynamic in nature.

What does this mean, and how does Wagner’s magnum opus confirm the death of the gods?

Wagner was, among others, a genius with insight to things and truths that come forth into the Unconscious Mind as an epiphany, even though those insights are never formally recognized by the persons (usually creative artists) who have them.


Wagner didn’t take the Norse “theology” and use it for his music drama; he reworked the theology to show that the gods didn’t just hide themselves from mankind, but died, once and for all time.

The remnants of God remain, and so do His messengers. Even the soul of God lives on – as the Holy Spirit, but God Himself, and His Second Nature, Jesus, are dead.

And Holy Mary, the Mother of Jesus (God)? She may still be alive in some sense, but not in substance as she once was.


The gods have subsided, in relevance, and reality.

Otherwise we humans would be experiencing them, in some overt if intangible way.

How does this affect us when we die? That for another time…..


reverie said...

Just because im not sure... Who was it that God made his last appearence to in 800BC?

RRRGroup said...


It was Elijah.

Ezekiel had contact, in 500 B.C., with either a UFO alien (as some contend) or a messenger of God, maybe several messengers.

(God, Yahweh, for us, was dead before 500 B.C.)