Monday, November 22, 2010

UFO Peer Review? You gotta be kidding….

The UFO mystery continues as a mystery, unabated.

Although some so-called researchers have spent their life-times studying the phenomenon, these “researchers” have come nowhere close to resolving any aspect of the UFO phenomenon.

Not an iota of understanding or tangible hypothesis has evolved over the sixty years plus of UFO study by a small group of UFO die-hards, who like to pretend research credibility by labeling their hobby “ufology.”

The resident hang-out for this moldering group of UFO devotees is UFO UpDates, called “The List” by habituĂ©s of the shop-worn web-site.

A visit to The List will show you that the left-over and left-out members of “ufology” try to one-up other members with attempts at faux-expertise; that is, members strive mightily to show that they have some expertise about something: aircraft, chemistry, photography, et cetera – all things that have little or nothing to do with the intrinsic UFO riddle.

Elder statesmen of the concocted “science of ufology” hope to create a legacy of some kind for the futile and fruitless endeavors over the years.

Jerome Clark, for instance, hangs his hat on the rubric “UFO Historian” – a sad commentary for one’s career or life.

Stanton Friedman, a well-known UFO spokesperson has been relegated to defending his obtuse views about UFOs and various elements of the foolish study called ufology.

Bruce Maccabee, a Naval insider, uses The List to showcase his knowledge – limited knowledge we note – of UFO photography that has shown up over the years.

Don Ledger is a pilot, who likes to correct Listers when they wax eloquently but incorrectly about airfoils and things that fly in the sky.

When a topic arrives at UFO UpDates, it’s never ignored, but always flailed by someone who uses the topic to back-bite others or to showcase a pretense at scholarship about something.

No topic is ever debated on its merits, or efficacy. The List is all about ego and self-promotion.

What’s even sadder is that the small contingent of UFO mavens who still use UpDates for a presence in the UFO community have no idea how ridiculous their ramblings are to outsiders who look at UFOs in the context of wider realities or surrealities.

Over the years, The List has accumulated more UFO rot than any other UFO site in existence.

The surfeit of blather is astounding, for its faux seriousness and ludicrous patina, as academics and true scientists see the thing.

We continue to refer to the group that maintains a presence at UFO UpDates, The List, as UFO Geezers: a group of has-beens or never-weres who represent nothing worthwhile within the legitimate study of UFOs.

This group of pathetic UFO hobbyists are in the final stages of life, thankfully, whose passings will leave open the door of UFO study for real peer review by persons who are less inclined to defend their smarmy, egotistical wasted lives and pursue a mystery that evokes true awe in the human mind.


Audio said...

Well, it is indeed true to say that UFO updates is full of personal insult, arguments and ego trips. It is for this reason I left it a long time ago.

But isn't personally insulting some of its contributors on your post doing the same thing exactly?

It is easy to knock people, but some like Friedman have spent the best part of their lives researching, lecturing and generally adding to the field of ideas. It's not in good taste therefore to mock simply because his ideas are different from yours. This is exactly what you're complaining that UFO updates does, and you're doing it yourselves.

I don't necessarily agree with any one theory of the UFO, I like to keep an open mind, which is why I like your blog, but in all honesty it's looking more cynical lately. Familiarity breeding contempt perhaps.

RRRGroup said...


You're right of course.

We're bastards of the same stripe as many who frequent UFO UpDates, but we don't pretend to be loftier than the people who visit here (or at our other sites/blogs.

The so-called "listers" think they are the creme de la creme of "ufology."

They aren't.

They're the remnants of a rag-tag group of "researchers" who've settled into a stagnancy.

Friedman is a good guy but he's given up research and investigation to live off the laurels of his UFO longevity.

It's time he move aside and let someone else be the face of ufology for the masses.

(By the way, we're not the only ones who smirk at Friedman's self-promotion. Visit our blog, The UFO Provocateurs at for comments from others who see Mr. Friedman as we do, or worse.)


Audio said...

Thanks for the reply, and the honesty, you're right also there's no loftiness that comes across, but the insults (personal) were there. Mr Friedman, well I put that down to his age, and how long he's being doing research. I mean this guy compiled reports for the congressional symposium in 1 9 6 8 ! I guess he's entitled to a break.

My impression of the updates is that

a) Familiarity (with the subject) breeds contempt for it, as well as other researchers.

b) Ego is a major problem for most posters.

c) Cynicism rules the day, I once asked for suggestions on a UFO documentary and Richard Hall, said something along the lines of "oh great another boring documentary, with shock revelations" I hadn't even mentioned the content. Talk about cynicism!

I've been looking into this stuff for about 30 years or so, and nothing much has changed. The believers still accept the first weird thing that happens as proof positive, and the debunkers reject anything that's remotely weird. Believers need to be more sceptical, and debunkers need to stfu. Scepticism is fine, in fact it's necessary, but too much stuff is discounted arbitrarily.

Thanks for your time, and don't give into cynicism ! :)

RRRGroup said...

Cynicism? Moi, Audio?

The UFO phenomenon is fascinating, and a true mystery.

The UpDates gang is more into showing off than trying to approach the topic seriously, with new insights.

They like to squelch newbies (to UpDates), and they've created a lousy clique.

I'm sure they are frustrated by the unresolved UFO riddle, but why take it out on those who still see UFOs as something wonderful to behold (maybe).

Check out our UFO Iconoclast(s) blog, where no one is cynical and there are some interesting posts and comments by a more sophisticated, reserved group.